Club Admiralty

v7.3 - moving along, a point increase at a time

Multilitteratus Incognitus

Pondering what to learn next 🤔

I knows it when I sees it


When I first started teaching graduate courses back in 2012 (wow...time flies), my hallmark course was titled The Design and Instruction of Online Courses.  Most of my students were folks who were learning to be instructional designers, or faculty who wanted to learn to teach online and had some years of teaching in person under their belt.  One of the most common things I heard in that class was that it was easier when teaching on campus to determine if students were engaged or paying attention.  Just by looking at them, you could determine this by their facial expressions and body language. Eh...OK🤷‍♂️.  While I don't disagree that some people may have this ability some of the time with some of the students in front of them, I still think that people tend to overestimate their ability to do this.

Fast forward to today, browsing through the r/Professors subreddit, one tends to find posts asking fellow redditors how they can tell if their student's work is generated by an LLM. We all know (or should know) AI detectors are snakeoil and don't work; so faculty are left with reading the tea leaves, guessing, and injecting their own gut feeling - and I would argue subconscious bias.

I personally find the guessing game an exercise in futility.  I remember being in college and reviewing peer submissions in a 102 class and thinking: "Did you write this? Did someone else write this?  Did you write this with a thesaurus next to you?" This type of second-guessing isn't new in the LLM era. I think the LLM-era has made us more paranoid, and much more eager to suss out those "stinkin' lil' cheaters."🙄

Now, don't get me wrong, last summer I taught a course, everyone was a grownass adult, a faculty member of many years, and I still got submissions that seemed AI-generated. I rolled my eyes whenever I read these.  They weren't particularly great, but they were fine enough to pass.  I gave feedback anyway as if people actually wrote these submissions.  Why? There was no concrete proof that AI was used, and if it was, I don't know if students modified/edited that output to better suit their project, keeping what worked and discarding what didn't.  It made for a boring read, but I wasn't giving points for originality and intrigue. 

My feeling, after discussing LLMs this past year in the context of cheating, is that many faculty want some external policeman (or bogeyman) to enforce any sort of AI policy that keeps things like they were in 2019. In the absence of that, we have pinky swears and attestations that student work submitted isn't AI-derived (😹), and then we start looking for the AI bogeyman whenever we read something that seems slightly off.  It may be AI...or it might be students faking it until they make it...

 Comments (1)
Stacks Image 20

Archive

 May 2026 (1)
 Apr 2026 (2)
 Mar 2026 (2)
 Jan 2026 (1)
 Dec 2025 (2)
 Nov 2025 (2)
 Sep 2025 (1)
 Aug 2025 (1)
 Jun 2025 (1)
 Apr 2025 (1)
 Mar 2025 (1)
 Feb 2025 (1)
 Jan 2025 (1)
 Dec 2024 (2)
 Oct 2024 (2)
 Sep 2024 (1)
 Aug 2024 (5)
 Nov 2023 (1)
 Aug 2023 (1)
 Jul 2023 (1)
 May 2023 (1)
 Apr 2023 (4)
 Mar 2023 (5)
 Feb 2023 (2)
 Dec 2022 (6)
 Nov 2022 (1)
 Sep 2022 (1)
 Aug 2022 (2)
 Jul 2022 (3)
 Jun 2022 (1)
 May 2022 (1)
 Apr 2022 (2)
 Feb 2022 (2)
 Nov 2021 (2)
 Sep 2021 (1)
 Aug 2021 (1)
 Jul 2021 (2)
 Jun 2021 (1)
 May 2021 (1)
 Oct 2020 (1)
 Sep 2020 (1)
 Aug 2020 (1)
 May 2020 (2)
 Apr 2020 (2)
 Feb 2020 (1)
 Dec 2019 (3)
 Oct 2019 (2)
 Aug 2019 (1)
 Jul 2019 (1)
 May 2019 (1)
 Apr 2019 (1)
 Mar 2019 (1)
 Dec 2018 (5)
 Nov 2018 (1)
 Oct 2018 (2)
 Sep 2018 (2)
 Jun 2018 (1)
 Apr 2018 (1)
 Mar 2018 (2)
 Feb 2018 (2)
 Jan 2018 (1)
 Dec 2017 (1)
 Nov 2017 (2)
 Oct 2017 (1)
 Sep 2017 (2)
 Aug 2017 (2)
 Jul 2017 (2)
 Jun 2017 (4)
 May 2017 (7)
 Apr 2017 (3)
 Feb 2017 (4)
 Jan 2017 (5)
 Dec 2016 (5)
 Nov 2016 (9)
 Oct 2016 (1)
 Sep 2016 (6)
 Aug 2016 (4)
 Jul 2016 (7)
 Jun 2016 (8)
 May 2016 (9)
 Apr 2016 (10)
 Mar 2016 (12)
 Feb 2016 (13)
 Jan 2016 (7)
 Dec 2015 (11)
 Nov 2015 (10)
 Oct 2015 (7)
 Sep 2015 (5)
 Aug 2015 (8)
 Jul 2015 (9)
 Jun 2015 (7)
 May 2015 (7)
 Apr 2015 (15)
 Mar 2015 (2)
 Feb 2015 (10)
 Jan 2015 (4)
 Dec 2014 (7)
 Nov 2014 (5)
 Oct 2014 (13)
 Sep 2014 (10)
 Aug 2014 (8)
 Jul 2014 (8)
 Jun 2014 (5)
 May 2014 (5)
 Apr 2014 (3)
 Mar 2014 (4)
 Feb 2014 (8)
 Jan 2014 (10)
 Dec 2013 (10)
 Nov 2013 (4)
 Oct 2013 (8)
 Sep 2013 (6)
 Aug 2013 (10)
 Jul 2013 (6)
 Jun 2013 (4)
 May 2013 (3)
 Apr 2013 (2)
 Mar 2013 (8)
 Feb 2013 (4)
 Jan 2013 (10)
 Dec 2012 (11)
 Nov 2012 (3)
 Oct 2012 (8)
 Sep 2012 (17)
 Aug 2012 (15)
 Jul 2012 (16)
 Jun 2012 (19)
 May 2012 (12)
 Apr 2012 (12)
 Mar 2012 (12)
 Feb 2012 (12)
 Jan 2012 (13)
 Dec 2011 (14)
 Nov 2011 (19)
 Oct 2011 (21)
 Sep 2011 (31)
 Aug 2011 (12)
 Jul 2011 (8)
 Jun 2011 (7)
 May 2011 (3)
 Apr 2011 (2)
 Mar 2011 (8)
 Feb 2011 (5)
 Jan 2011 (6)
 Dec 2010 (6)
 Nov 2010 (3)
 Oct 2010 (2)
 Sep 2010 (2)
 Aug 2010 (4)
 Jul 2010 (9)
 Jun 2010 (8)
 May 2010 (5)
 Apr 2010 (4)
 Mar 2010 (2)
 Feb 2010 (3)
 Jan 2010 (7)
 Dec 2009 (9)
 Nov 2009 (5)
 Oct 2009 (9)
 Sep 2009 (13)
 Aug 2009 (13)
 Jul 2009 (13)
 Jun 2009 (13)
 May 2009 (15)
 Apr 2009 (15)
 Mar 2009 (14)
 Feb 2009 (13)
 Jan 2009 (10)
 Dec 2008 (12)
 Nov 2008 (6)
 Oct 2008 (8)
 Sep 2008 (2)
 Jun 2008 (1)
 May 2008 (6)
 Apr 2008 (1)
Stacks Image 18